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Julie Foucher MD, MS is a four-time CrossFit Games athlete and family physician. Her passion lies in bridging the gap between fitness and medicine to empower individuals to live healthier, more fulfilling lives. Every third Tuesday, she shares insightful content from a diverse lineup of guests, including medical experts and elite athletes.
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Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
Building Stronger, Smarter, High Character Kids PH174
Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
Tuesday Dec 15, 2020
We noticed her speech was definitely years ahead of her age, her confidence, her ability to walk into a room and own it, and other people started noticing all of these social, emotional, physical things about her, and we’re like, “yeah, it really works.” Through physical activity you can really have an impact on a child’s social-emotional health, you can. Mental health, speech, everything. So, Matt said, if we want this for her, imagine how many parents would also be interested in this? This was five years ago, exactly five years ago, when we started KidStrong.”
- Megin Sharp, KidStrong Founder
Observe a KidStrong class, and you'll see what looks like a child's dream playground. Kids climbing ropes, swinging from rings, crawling around obstacles. While you can immediately see that these kids are becoming physically stronger and more capable, they're also developing life skills that aren't immediately visible to the naked eye.
KidStrong is a child development training center focused on brain, physical & character development for young children. Their curriculum is designed with the goal of promoting a strong body, strong brain, and strong character. Based on developmental science, they leverage knowledge from experts in the fields of pediatric occupational therapy, child development, sports physiology, and physical education to create a program focused on helping the entire family. Classes include physical activity, public speaking, affirmations and more.
Founders Matt and Megin Sharp originally created KidStrong for their daughter Ella, to help her become strong and independent. Megin has a Masters Degree in Physical Education, and Matt has a wealth of professional coaching and tech experience. When Ella became old enough for play groups, they was dissatisfied with the un-structured approach of the options available to her, so they put their heads together and developed the beginnings of KidStrong. What started as a small class of children in a warehouse has grown into a nationwide program empowering kids and families.
Matt and Megin have created an amazing program in KidStrong, and I was excited to learn more about how they developed the curriculum, the science behind the program, and to hear some incredibly heartwarming stories of how KidStrong is helping kids excel at life.
In this episode we discuss:
- Matt and Megin’s background and the inception of KidStrong
- Skills that children learn in KidStrong and how it helps their mental, physical and emotional development
- The importance of parents being part of the community, too
- How Matt and Megin protect the culture of KidStrong to ensure excellence across all locations
- The structure of a typical class
- Ways KidStrong helps children excel at life
- Stories of how KidStrong has helped families
- The importance of kids having coaches and role models beyond beyond their parents
- How families can get involved in KidStrong
- Three things Matt and Megin do on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on their health
- One thing they struggle to implement that could have a big impact on their health
- What a healthy life looks like to Matt and Megin
You can follow KidStrong on their website, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.
Links:
- CrossFit Maximus
- The Broad Jump as a Developmental Milestone
- A 19-Year Study Reveals Kindergarten Students With These 2 Skills Are Twice as Likely to Obtain a College Degree (and They Have Nothing to Do With Reading)
Related episodes:
Ep 17 - Juliet and Kelly Starrett on Standing Desks and Movement for Kids
Ep 68 - Pat and Taz Barber on CrossFit, Coaching, and Kids
Ep 73 - RISEing to the Occasion with Olympic Swimmers Caroline Burckle and Rebecca Soni
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.

Tuesday Dec 08, 2020
Small Steps, Big Results: Carrie McCall PH 173
Tuesday Dec 08, 2020
Tuesday Dec 08, 2020
“For all my friends who are struggling to find where to get started, just do something. Just find something you love. It does not have to be CrossFit. I love CrossFit, and I would love if you loved CrossFit, too, so we could talk that language together, but just find something. Just start. Baby steps. You’ll be far more successful just by taking baby steps instead of trying to do everything all at once.”
- Carrie McCall
“I knew I was overweight and it wasn’t healthy but I didn’t know what to do about it.” At just over 5 feet tall and over 220 pounds, Carrie McCall spent the first 25 years of her life struggling with being overweight.
Carrie’s childhood got off to a tumultuous start when, at just 18 months old, her mother passed away. Then, as a young girl, her brother was diagnosed with Type-1 diabetes. Too young to fully comprehend these illnesses, Carrie grew to be fearful and anxious of doctors and hospitals. Says Carrie, “I lived in fear that something was going to happen to me and I was going to die early. I became fearful of going to the doctor. If I never went to the doctor, they couldn’t tell me bad news. If I didn’t know about a problem, I could ignore it, right?”
It was at about this same age when Carrie began to notice she looked different from other kids and started getting teased for her size. Her family was loving and encouraged her to take up physical activities, but Carrie continued to gain weight, and continued to grow more uncomfortable in her own skin. She turned to food for comfort, and a habit of emotional eating began, fueled by her fear of dying young like her mother.
Then, at age 25, Carrie had an epiphany. She was severely overweight, on the couch watching The Biggest Loser while eating McDonald’s, and she realized she had outlived her mother! Still fearful of the medical world, she knew she needed to make a change if she was going to avoid the doctor in the future.
She started her journey very simply, by walking three days per week and reducing her calories. As she became more comfortable with exercise, she added in the elliptical, then fitness videos with light weights. She started planning her meals and cooking more. Slowly, the weight began to come off.
A move to a new city prompted Carrie to join a globo gym where she began working with a trainer who encouraged her to lift heavier weights and introduced her to CrossFit-style workouts. Carrie loved how strong and capable it made her feel!
She’s also quick to note that her progress hasn’t always been linear. While attending seminary, Carrie struggled with stress and academic pressure and her emotional eating returned, leading to re-gain some weight.
Luckily, this time she had tools to help her succeed. She remembered how much she loved CrossFit, and after finishing school she joined an affiliate. Being surrounded by a community invested in healthy living has made all the difference as Carrie works daily to find a healthy balance.
Carrie says, “My journey isn’t one that paints a picture of perfection. My weight is always fluctuating. Some years, it is higher than I want it (or where my doctor would even like it). There are still times where I allow stress and emotional tendencies to creep back into my coping mechanism. However, I am so proud of the progress I have made. I get up every morning and I move my body. I try to plan my meals in advance especially in seasons of high stress. Looking back to where I was 10 years ago, I can see how far I have come. I may have lost several pounds but I have gained so much more. I can see what was hiding behind the excess weight… a strong, sassy, and capable young lady.”
Carrie has been a member of the Pursuing Health community since the beginning, and I'm so excited that she's been willing to share her story. I think it’s so inspiring and will ring true for so many people who know they need to make a change, but aren’t sure how to get started.
In this episode, we chat about how the loss of her mother at an early age shaped her views on health, how Carrie manages her emotional eating, and why she considers herself a professional scaled athlete.
In this episode we discuss:
- Carrie’s experiences growing up as an overweight child
- How Carrie approached her weight loss with a strategy of small steps
- What prompted her to join a gym and start working with a trainer
- What led Carrie to attend seminary and how the stresses that came with pursuing that path led her to regain some of her weight
- Her introduction to CrossFit
- How Carrie benefited from the community aspect of CrossFit
- How CrossFit has helped her ministry
- How Carrie forges ahead when the challenges of her work feel overwhelming
- Advice she would give to her 12-year old self
- Advice she would give to someone who knows they need to make a change, but who is struggling on where to start
- Three things Carrie does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she struggles to implement that could have a big impact on her health
- What a healthy life looks like to Carrie
You can connect with Carrie on Instagram.
Related episodes:
Ep 33 - Bob Harper on CrossFit, The Biggest Loser, and Prioritizing Health
Ep 48 - Jen Widerstrom: Health, Habits, and Why you are Enough
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.

Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
Optimizing Health through Genomics Based Personalized Medicine PH172
Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
Tuesday Dec 01, 2020
“The model of medicine where you base treatment of patients on statistics and epidemiology- what works for most people- we felt like we could do better as a society and as a group of physicians, and that’s what took us down the route of creating Wild Health and focusing on precision medicine.”
- Dr. Matthew Dawson, Wild Health CEO
Can human performance be optimized by tailoring medical care to each patient’s unique genetic makeup?
Matt Dawson, MD and Mike Mallin, MD are the co-founders of Wild Health, a healthcare clinic using a genomics-based personalized medicine approach.
Dr. Dawson has been a life-long athlete focused on optimizing performance. He received scholarships to play two sports in college even with self-professed "minimal talent" because of his voracious reading and implementation of any fitness or nutritional techniques that would give him an edge. He continued that obsession into medical school at the University of Kentucky College of Medicine, and as a physician he has won numerous national awards for education, innovation, and leadership.
Dr. Mallin has been in medical practice for 10 years, but obsessed with health, physical performance, and longevity his entire life. He attended the University of South Carolina School of Medicine and currently practices in Bend, Oregon. Dr. Mallin is board certified in emergency medicine and has completed a fellowship in point-of-care ultrasound.
Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin met during their Emergency Medicine residency in Salt Lake City, Utah, where they bonded over their life-long passion for optimizing performance. Throughout their residency, they continuously self-experimented with nutrition, fitness, and recovery techniques to give themselves a competitive edge.
Together they have gone on to grow several businesses, create apps, and author two textbooks. Most recently they founded Wild Health where they use a medical approach rooted in the lessons they learned during their time self-experimenting as residents.
Wild Health utilizes a team of medical professionals to look at an individuals unique genetics, lab results, microbiome, and lifestyle factors in order to craft a precision treatment plan that fits the patient's health, fitness, and longevity goals.
I recently had the opportunity to appear on Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin’s Wild Health podcast, and I was excited to catch up with them at their home base in Lexington, Kentucky to have them as guests on Pursuing Health. We talked about how they became interested in genomics and personalized medicine, how using an objective Health Score can motivate patients to make lifestyle changes, and the processes they’re implementing to make precision treatment plans the future of medicine.
In this episode we discuss:
- Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin’s backgrounds in health and fitness, and why they decided to go into medicine
- How Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin met and some of the adventures they shared during residency
- The nutrition and biohacking they experimented with as they went through their medical training
- How Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin came to recognize that genomics were integral to practicing medicine
- What personalized medicine/genomics-based medicine means
- What the patient process looks like
- Using an objective Health Score to help motivate patients and give them a way to track progress
- How Wild Health uses health coaches to be more hands-on with their patients
- The Wild Health Fellowship
- The tipping point that allowed them to go all-in with Wild Health, and what their vision for the future looks like
- Three things Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin do on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on their health
- One thing they struggle to implement that could have a big impact on their health
- What a healthy life looks like to Dr. Dawson and Dr. Mallin
You can follow Wild Health on their website, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.
Links:
- Gym Jones
- HIIT benefits for brain optimization with Physician and Crossfit athlete Dr. Julie Foucher.
- Jeff Volek on Ketogenic Diets and Athletic Performance
- The Effects of Sleep Extension on the Athletic Performance of Collegiate Basketball Players
- Oura Ring
- Ooler Sleep System
- Leif Heart Rate Variability Monitor
- Heart Math
- Ben Greenfield Fitness: Why Your DNA Is Worthless (& What You Need To Focus On Instead).
- ReWild Yourself Podcast with Daniel Vitalis
Related episodes:
Ep 78 - Lifestyle and Brain Health with Dr. David Perlmutter
Ep 120 - All About Keto with Dom D'Agostino
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.

Tuesday Nov 24, 2020
Benefits of High Intensity Interval Training for Brain Optimization PH171
Tuesday Nov 24, 2020
Tuesday Nov 24, 2020
“When we think about exercise in general as sort of a hermetic stressor, it just makes sense to think about, if you’re going to do it at a higher intensity and have these repeated hormetic stressors, you’re going to get an overall greater response. It’s a lot of the same mechanisms that we see for exercise causing a lot of great brain health and cognitive benefits, but we’re just seeing it to a greater degree.”
- Julie Foucher-Urcuyo, MD
In this special edition of Pursuing Health Pearls, I'm joining Dr. Matt Dawson and Dr. Mike Mallin at the Wild Health Brain Optimization Summit for an interview-style discussion focused on how high intensity interval training (HIIT) can optimize brain health.
The Brain Optimization Summit featured doctors, scientists, biohackers, and nootropics professionals discussing lifestyle habits and methods to improve mental performance, memory formation, concentration, and professional creativity.
This was a really fun conference, and they’re planning to hold another similar conference on athletic optimization which I plan to participate in, so stay tuned. I’m also excited to share more with you about Matt and Mike when I interview them in next week's episode so stay tuned for that as well!
In this episode we discuss:
- The definition of high intensity interval training (HIIT)
- How HIIT relates to brain health and why it's advocated to improve brain health
- How HIIT can reduce risk of stroke and improve stroke recovery rates
- The amount of HIIT required to receive health benefits
- The mechanism behind getting brain health benefits from HIIT
- High intensity exercise versus moderate intensity exercise
- The impact of HIIT on dementia, depression, Parkinson's, and ADHD
- How to minimize the risks of HIIT
- How to safely introduce it to a sedentary individual
- How much HIIT is too much?
- The target heart rate for a sedentary ramp up
- How to cycle HIIT into your weekly routine
- Quick workout recommendations
- Supplements to help with joint health
- Thoughts on fasted HIIT
- A Burpee Challenge! 5 rounds of:1 minute of burpees, 1 minute of rest
You can follow Wild Health on their website, podcast, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.
Links:
- The feasibility of an acute high-intensity exercise bout to promote locomotor learning after stroke
- Multimodal Therapy Involving High-Intensity Interval Training Improves the Physical Fitness, Motor Skills, Social Behavior, and Quality of Life of Boys With ADHD: A Randomized Controlled Study
Related episodes:
Ep 78 - Lifestyle and Brain Health with Dr. David Perlmutter
Ep 159 - Pursuing Health Pearls: Exercise and Why It's So Good For Us
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on November 23, 2020.

Tuesday Nov 17, 2020
Brooke Wells on What it Takes to be a Top CrossFit Athlete PH170
Tuesday Nov 17, 2020
Tuesday Nov 17, 2020
Six-time CrossFit Games athlete Brooke Wells was just 19 when she qualified for her first CrossFit Games in 2015, and she's competed at every CrossFit Games since, always placing inside the top 20. This year, at the 2020 CrossFit Games, Brooke earned her best finish yet, placing 5th amongst an elite field of competitors.
When Brooke started CrossFit, she had a natural gift for strength and lifting heavy weights. Combine that with a background in track and gymnastics, plus several years of hard work to improve on her weaknesses, and Brooke has become an incredibly well-rounded athlete who is a consistent podium threat. In Stage 1 of the 2020 CrossFit Games, she finished in the top 10 on every event, proving there are very few holes in her game.
Looking ahead to the 2021 season, she's excited to start improving upon her strength numbers again and to inch her way up the leaderboard even further.
She's also excited to be surrounding herself with a training community to help her achieve that goal. Brooke recently relocated from Tulsa to Nashville and has teamed up with several other high level athletes including Will Morad, Alec Smith and Streat Horner to form an environment where she can be challenged to give her best with each session.
In Brooke's second appearance on the podcast, we caught up just a week after Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games to talk about her experience at the 2020 Games, her plans for the 2021 season, and the legacy she hopes to leave on CrossFit.
In this episode we discuss:
- Areas where Brooke feels she has grown the most over the past 6 years
- Her 2020 training season
- How Brooke decided to move to Nashville
- Brooke’s approach to preparing for Stage 1 and Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games
- Her typical daily routine
- Brooke's experience at Stage 2 of the CrossFit Games
- Her impressions on the changes in leadership within CrossFit HQ
- How Brooke is preparing for the 2021 training season
- How she plans to spend her downtime during the off-season
- The legacy Brooke hopes to leave on CrossFit
- Three things Brooke does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she thinks could have a big impact on her health, but she has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Brooke
You can follow Brooke on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.
Links:
- Brooke Wells is Ready to Make History
- Brooke Wells - 2020 CrossFit Games Preview
- CrossFit Trivium
- New Morning Mercies
Related episodes:
Ep 47 -Coffee Talk with Katrin, Jen, and Kelley at the Reebok Athlete Summit
Ep 64 -Haley Adams: A CrossFit Games Teen with Talent
Ep 74 - Brooke Wells & Jessica Griffith on Forging Friendships & Striking a Balance
Ep 166 - Three-time Fittest American Woman Kari Pearce on Preparing for the 2020 CrossFit Games
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.

Tuesday Nov 10, 2020
Taking Control of Multiple Sclerosis with Jasmine Joy PH169
Tuesday Nov 10, 2020
Tuesday Nov 10, 2020
“You have something like a major surgery, whether you have MS specifically or whether you have any other type of autoimmune disease or anything like that, but those don’t have to be death sentences. Even though that’s what they feel like when you first get diagnosed, and if the relapses are hitting harder and harder, or if the symptoms are getting worse. It’s easy to think it’s just going downhill. The biggest thing that CrossFit has done for me is to remind me or show me that I can take control of my health. I can take control of what my body does, I can take control of what I put into my body, and all of those things are going to benefit me.”
- Jasmine Joy
To look at Jasmine Joy, you would never know there are lesions on her brain and spinal cord, or guess that rods and screws are holding her spine in place. To the casual observer, 26-year old Jasmine is healthy, happy, and moving freely with full intensity in the gym.
Yet, it is actually because of those three things that Jasmine is capable to live her life with little fear of what is to come. The choice of health, happiness, and movement are life-changing ones.
When she was age 20, Jasmine was preparing for a spinal fusion to treat severe scoliosis. The surgery would help adjust and hold her spine by using two metal rods and at least a dozen screws and would be followed by a daunting recovery process. Jasmine would have to relearn how to stand, walk, move, and function on her own before returning to college.
During the preparation process, the doctors asked a series of routine of questions including, "Do you ever feel numbness, tingling, or pins and needles?" Jasmine told the doctor yes, thinking "who doesn't?" However, the degree, frequency, and locations of pins and needles she was experiencing was not normal and thus, further testing began.
An MRI revealed that Jasmine had lesions on her spinal cord and brain. During what was supposed to be the most fun and social time of her life, Jasmine learned that she likely had Multiple Sclerosis, and she was still preparing for a terrifying spinal fusion to boot.
Jasmine’s fusion was a success, and after an arduous and painful recovery she returned to school, but her health challenges weren’t over. Follow up testing revealed that at just 20 years old, she had Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis. Over the next several years her doctors worked to find the right medications to help her as she struggled with pain, allergic reactions and extreme side-effects like depression.
Jasmine also started to make some changes on her own. Driven by having own basic mobility taken from her after her spinal fusion, she was no longer taking movement for granted. She began running, paying attention to her nutrition, and frequenting the gym. Says Jasmine, “I not only realized what a gift movement was by having it taken away, but I also had this looming dread that one day my ability to move might still be taken away, and maybe for good. If there was any chance of that, I wanted to do everything I could now.”
After trying all sorts of fitness, Jasmine ultimately joined a CrossFit affiliate and fell in love with it during her first class. She recognized that in the years to come she might lose some of her abilities, and she knew that when that time came, she would be able to continue by adapting her workouts or finding someone to help her, regardless of how her MS might eventually look.
Now 26, Jasmine has been symptom-free since starting CrossFit, and her MS specialist encourages her to continue with high intensity exercise. CrossFit helps Jasmine forget she even has a terrifying disease with no cure and her doctor assures her that her beliefs as to how she is no longer experiencing symptoms is neither cheesy nor crazy- it’s possible and likely.
The impact CrossFit has had on Jasmine’s life is remarkable. She says, “I know that because of CrossFit, I took control over who I was, who I wanted to be, and the role my conditions would play in my life. I no longer focus on what my body looks like, rather on what it can do. I celebrate new movements and strength, not pounds loss. I look at ingredient lists, and I keep track of macro-nutrients I am taking in, not which food to "cheat" with. I have a massive second FAMILY of people I get to talk to authentically, get to know on good days and bad, workout next to, coach, celebrate with, and just live this life everyday seeing…. I am fully aware that to most everyone, CrossFitters sound like they are this insane cult of people who only talk about CrossFit. However, when you find a community, methodology, and sport that does for you and for countless others what it has for me? How can you not be obsessed with it in some way? CrossFit shapes your life.”
When Jasmine first shared her story with me, I was incredibly inspired by her courage and her desire to focus on the variables within her control as she manages her MS diagnosis. In this episode, we chat about the evolution of her journey, how CrossFit and her CrossFit community have played a huge role in managing her symptoms, and how she keeps a positive mindset in the face of such an unpredictable disease.
In this episode we discuss:
- Jasmine’s childhood diagnosis of scoliosis
- How her daily life was impacted by the condition
- Preparing for major back surgery and how that led to a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis
- What her recovery process looked like
- Using nutrition to help manage her MS symptoms
- Jasmine’s early treatment plan, which was primarily focused on medication
- How she got started with CrossFit and the evolution of her training
- How the adaptability and scalability of CrossFit appeals to Jasmine as she approaches her MS long-term
- How the rods in her back impact her movement in the gym
- How CrossFit and her community have impacted her life
- The importance of recognizing that a diagnosis does not have to be a death sentence
- Three things Jasmine does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she struggles to implement that could have a big impact on her health
- What a healthy life looks like to Jasmine
You can connect with Jasmine via or Instagram or email, jasmine@crossfitfargo.com.
Links:
Related episodes:
Ep 148 - Fighting Back Against Fibromyalgia: Olivia Vollmar
Ep 78 - Lifestyle and Brain Health with Dr. David Perlmutter
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on November 9, 2020.

Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng on Avoiding the ICU and Racism in Medicine PH 168
Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
As you learn more, and more, and more about disease, prevention is the key. Why get sick in the first place? Don’t get sick! Why are we going to wait until you’re end-stage or sick as a dog before we try and provide you with help? No. Let’s be smarter with our minds, resources and approaches. It just doesn’t make sense when you think about it, really. A lot of times we’re just putting Band-Aids on [things]. Let’s get to the root cause and, really, stop you from entering the door.”
- Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng
Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng is a palliative care & intensive care doctor based in Ottawa, Canada. As a physician treating critically ill patients, he brings an enthusiasm and passion to the idea of keeping patients out of the hospital in the first place by using lifestyle to prevent disease.
On his podcast, Solving Healthcare, Dr. Kyeremanteng features interviews and discussions on the topic of improving healthcare delivery. He is also the founder of the Resource Optimization Network, a multidisciplinary research group working to reduce health spending, make the ICU more efficient, and improve access to palliative care services.
Dr. Kyeremanteng was one of only two Black students in his medical school class, and as one of the few Black doctors practicing in his hospital today, he is keenly aware of the demographic imbalance in medicine and the resulting challenges Black individuals must overcome to have the same opportunities as their peers. He’s recently launched a healthcare mentorship program to help Black students bridge this gap.
Dr. Kyermanteng’s role in the ICU has put him at the forefront of caring for acutely ill COVID-19 patients, and his experience as a palliative doctor gives him a unique perspective on the challenges facing these patients and their families.
I was excited to hear from Dr. Kyeremanteng on all of these hot topics, and more. We covered a lot of ground in the conversation, from how intensive care medicine and palliative care medicine go hand-in-hand, to the lessons he’s learned from spending time with patients near the end of their lives, to what actions we can start taking now to be anti-racist.
*Photo courtesy of Michelle Dickie
In this episode we discuss:
- His background and how he came to practice medicine
- Why he chose to specialize in both intensive care and palliative medicine
- The overlay between palliative medicine and ICU care
- The difference between ICU care, palliative care, and hospice care
- Lessons Dr. Kyeremanteng has learned from spending time with patients at the end of their lives
- How he developed his passion for disease prevention
- Observations Dr. Kyeremantang has had caring for acute patients during COVID
- Patterns he’s noticed in patients who thrive after leaving the ICU
- Ways Dr. Kyeremanteng helps patients nurture a positive mindset
- His experiences with racism both as a child and in medicine
- Dr. Kyeremanteng’s youth mentorship program
- Lessons he hopes to instill in his three sons
- The advice he would give to people to live their life to their fullest
- Dr. Kyeremanteng’s advice to people concerned about COVID-19
- Actions he would love to see his white colleagues take to fight racism
- Three things Dr. Kyeremanteng does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he struggles to implement that could have a big impact on his health
- What a healthy life looks like to Dr. Kyeremanteng
You can follow Dr. Kyeremanteng on his website, Solving Healthcare, his podcast, and on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.
Links:
- Palliative care: Earlier is better
- Systemic Racism, How to Create Change and More with Dr. Chika Oriuwa
- Easy Strength with Dan John
- The 4-Hour Work Week, Tim Ferriss
- The 80/20 Principle, Richard Koch
Related episodes:
Ep 147 – Cancer, Racism, and Speaking Up with Deb Cordner Carson
Ep 149 – The Science of Spontaneous Healing with Dr. Jeffrey Rediger
Ep 164 – Boosting Immunity and Reducing COVID Risk with Dr. Aseem Malhotra
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on November 3, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
“I think that’s part of why I love competing, is being side-by-side with people, having the spectators cheer you on and scream you on, and just being in the environment- it’s just so much energy. You push yourself and you don’t think as much about the pain as when you’re doing a workout by yourself. But I’m thankful that there was… because CrossFit ended up sending judges, it was nice that we had a judge, and the gym that we were at had some of their members come and spectate, and my coach- it was really cool also having my coach right there next to me, which is different than any other sort of competition. So, it kind of felt like a competition but also didn’t. Like I said, just because of those factors, but I did my best to keep it the same as a competition setting because, I bet similar to you being an athlete and growing up in gymnastics, just that competition mentality- nothing is like it, and you just bring yourself a little bit higher up than in training.” - Kari Pearce
In just 6 years, Kari Pearce has built one of the most impressive resumes in the sport of CrossFit. A 6-time CrossFit Games competitor, she has been a consistent performer, never finishing outside the top 10 since her rookie season in 2015. She has also earned the title of fittest American female three times and has represented Team USA at the CrossFit Invitational in 2016 in Canada and in 2017 in Australia.
Kari is among the top 5 Fittest Women on Earth who are about to take on Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games.
Kari has a background in gymnastics and competed for the University of Michigan where where her team won 4 Big Ten Championships. There she also earned her degree in Movement Science from the School of Kinesiology and was three time Academic All Big Ten.
In addition to being a full time athlete, Kari has used her experience with gymnastics, CrossFit, and coaching to develop PowerAbs, which is a core program done by thousands of people around the world.
In this episode we caught up just a couple weeks before Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games to talk about some of our shared experiences growing up doing gymnastics in Michigan, her collegiate gymnastics career, how she found CrossFit, some defining moments in her Games career thus far, and how she has approached all the twists and turns of this unprecedented season.
In this episode we discuss:
- Kari’s background doing gymnastics in Michigan
- Why she decided to pursue collegiate gymnastics instead of Olympic gymnastics
- Her insights into how the culture of gymnastics can improve to protect young athletes
- Lessons in nutrition and recovery that, in hindsight, Kari thinks would have benefitted her as a young gymnast
- How Kari got into CrossFit
- High points and struggles within her career so far
- Kari’s approach to dealing with injuries and finding the right mindset to allow them to heal
- Her experience and approach to the 2020 training season
- Making the move to Las Vegas
- Her reflections on Stage 1 of the 2020 CrossFit Games
- Her approach to training as she prepares for Stage 2
- Why Kari feels her coaches and training environment are important to her success as an athlete
- Her daily routine
- The Power Abs program
- Three things Kari does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she thinks could have a big impact on her health, but she has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Kari
You can follow Kari on her website, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.
Links:
Related episodes:
Ep 36a & 36b - Dominique Moceanu on Gymnastics, Healing and Health
Ep 130 - Kristi O'Connell on Training for Joy and Balance
Ep 145 - 2019 Third Fittest Woman Jamie (Greene) Simmonds
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 17, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
Thriving on the Unexpected: Cory Schmidgall PH165
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
“I have learned how to adapt to the unknown and unknowable. I have learned to focus on what I CAN do. This led me to my main mantra to date which is, “What’s the next step?” which is what I focus on in any type of adversity or workout.” - Cory Schmidgall
Cory Schmidgall tried just about every fitness program out there. Nothing seemed to light the fire he remembered from his football days, or satisfied the competitive drive that motivated him to try out for the NFL.
It was while he was recovering from a major surgery, an anterior cervical discectomy and fusion of his spine, that he read about CrossFit. “I tried a few of the WODs at my local rec center. While everyone was looking at me as if I were crazy, I tried Elizabeth. 21 minutes later I was hooked.”
A few years passed, and Cory found that he was struggling with hip mobility and recovery due to inflammation, despite putting extra work in to improve in those areas. A consult with his orthopedist confirmed that he had a genetic degenerative hip disease. At only 37, he suddenly felt twice his age, and began to spiral into a blackhole of self-pity. But his CrossFit community wouldn’t let him. “One day, when I was kicking rocks at our box, one of the other members simply said, ‘Dude, why don’t you just focus on what you CAN do.’ Simple but effective.” From that day forward, Cory took on a new mindset. He began to look at CrossFit as prehab to train for surgery.
In the span of 10 weeks, Cory had surgery on both hips. The pain was brutal. But he remembered his friend’s words of encouragement. “I started slow and again focused on what I could do daily. I started over with all movements focusing on form and rehab. I used CrossFit methodology for rehab, on top of the hip movement rehab, and the CrossFit nutrition protocol to stay on top of inflammation and heal my gut from years of pain meds. I felt I was getting in the best shape of my life prior to surgery but even more so in the months that followed.”
Life wasn’t done dealing to surprises to Cory. A year and a half after his hip surgeries, he was diagnosed with skin cancer, and went back under the knife to have it removed, adding a new scar to his thigh. Just a year later, this was followed by a second cervical discectomy and fusion, adding another level to his previous procedure.
Just as he had before, Cory prepared for these new challenges by keeping his eyes on the horizon, using CrossFit, and by getting his nutrition on point.
Says Cory, “5 years in now, I have learned how to adapt to the unknown and unknowable. I have learned to focus on what I CAN do. This led me to my main mantra to date which is, “What’s the next step?” which is what I focus on in any type of adversity or workout.”
When I first read Cory's story, I was impressed not only by the remarkable mindset he's used to approach so many challenging surgeries, but also by how he's worked hard to develop skills to manage his own panic attacks and anxiety. I was excited to catch up with him to learn more about how identifying his why has been so critical to growing through these obstacles, and how he's using his experiences to help others.
In this episode we discuss:
- How sports and injuries played a role in Cory’s life growing up
- Pursuing his goal of playing in the NFL
- Struggling to find his identity as he retired from sports
- The relief of finding an explanation for neurological symptoms he had been experiencing
- Cory’s first CrossFit workout
- The turning point for Cory’s mindset in approaching his injuries
- How Cory is using his experiences to help others
- What’s allowed him to grow through these obstacles
- Strategies that have been helpful for Cory to manage his anxiety
- Cory’s morning routine
- Three things Cory does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he knows would have a positive impact on his health, but he struggles to implement
- What a healthy life looks like to Cory
You can follow Cory on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, or you can listen to his podcast, Anxiety WOD.
Links:
- Dr. Angie Cross, D.C.
- Welcome to the Jungle, Jim Rome
- Live Your Dreams, Les Brown
- As Many Reps as Possible, Jason Khalipa
- Box breathing
- Wim Hof breathing
- Motiversity
- Why We Sleep, Matthew Walker
Related episodes:
Ep 102 - Jason Khalipa and the AMRAP Mentality
Ep 108 - Training Smarter, Not Harder: Prevention and Recovery from Injury with Pure Physio
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 10, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Boosting Immunity and Reducing COVID Risk with Dr. Aseem Malhotra PH164
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
“I think a lot of doctors kind of know this but don’t really… it’s never really been at the forefront of their minds until now. We know, for example, that people who have high blood glucose or type 2 diabetes have worse outcomes from any infection - specifically respiratory infections. So, when I started looking at the literature and also looking at how immune health links to excess body fat, obesity, and type 2 diabetes pre-COVID, the data was very clear that this was a big risk factor for a dysregulated immune system, an immune system that isn’t going to function properly. So, it wasn’t just about the associations that we were drawing from COVID-19 and worse outcomes.”
- Aseem Malhotra
Dr. Aseem Malhotra is a cardiologist with the U.K.’s National Health Service and a world renowned expert in the prevention, diagnosis and management of heart disease.
He is a visiting Professor of Evidence Based Medicine at the Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health in Salvador, Brazil, an honorary council member to the Metabolic Psychiatry Clinic at Stanford University School of Medicine California, and is Cardiology MSc examiner at the University of Hertfordshire, U.K.
Dr. Malhotra is a longtime health activist and a founding member and lead campaigner of Action on Sugar, an initiative which highlights the the harm caused by excess sugar consumption.
Most recently, he has been a vocal advocate for improving metabolic health to reduce vulnerability to disease, including COVID-19, and has authored the book The 21-Day Immunity Plan: How to Rapidly Improve Your Metabolic Health and Resilience to Fight Infection.
Dr. Aseem and I recently sat down to chat about the link between metabolic health and immune function, ways we can improve our own immunity, and why turning the tide in the fight against poor metabolic health will take more than just personal responsibility.
*Dr. Malhotra’s bio was adapted from his website.
In this episode we discuss:
- Dr. Malhotra’s background in cardiology and how he became involved in health activism
- Why personal responsibility is only a very small factor in the epidemic of chronic disease
- How obesity and metabolic health have affected the COVID pandemic
- The markers of metabolic health
- The link between immunity and metabolic health
- Lifestyle factors that optimize the response to vaccines
- A broad overview of things we can do to improve our immunity
- 10 key points for policy makers to address metabolic syndrome on a grand scale
- Three things Dr. Malhotra does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he struggles to implement that could have a big impact on his health
- What a healthy life looks like to Dr. Malhotra
You can follow Dr. Malhotra on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.
Links:
- Interview With Dr. Robert Lustig and Dr. Aseem Malhotra
- Aseem Malhotra: Lessons in Public Health Advocacy
- Works by Gary Taubes
- Lifestyle Tips to Hedge Against Respiratory Illness, Sunday Express
- Covid 19 and the elephant in the room, European Scientist
- The 21-day plan to support your immune system and help fight off infections, The Telegraph
- Does Obesity Increase COVID-19 Risk, Good Morning Britain
Related episodes:
Ep 144 - Pursuing Health Pearls: What COVID-19 is Teaching Us About Our Health
Ep 146 - Pursuing Health Pearls: Understanding and Assessing Metabolic Health
Ep 135 - Immune System Strength with Dr. Leonard Calabrese
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 2, 2020.