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Julie Foucher Brown MD, MS is a four-time CrossFit Games athlete and family physician.
Her passion lies in bridging the gap between fitness and medicine to empower individuals to live healthier, more fulfilling lives. Every third Tuesday, she shares insightful content from a diverse lineup of guests, including medical experts and elite athletes.
Julie Foucher Brown MD, MS is a four-time CrossFit Games athlete and family physician.
Her passion lies in bridging the gap between fitness and medicine to empower individuals to live healthier, more fulfilling lives. Every third Tuesday, she shares insightful content from a diverse lineup of guests, including medical experts and elite athletes.
Episodes

Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng on Avoiding the ICU and Racism in Medicine PH 168
Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
Tuesday Nov 03, 2020
As you learn more, and more, and more about disease, prevention is the key. Why get sick in the first place? Don’t get sick! Why are we going to wait until you’re end-stage or sick as a dog before we try and provide you with help? No. Let’s be smarter with our minds, resources and approaches. It just doesn’t make sense when you think about it, really. A lot of times we’re just putting Band-Aids on [things]. Let’s get to the root cause and, really, stop you from entering the door.”
- Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng
Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng is a palliative care & intensive care doctor based in Ottawa, Canada. As a physician treating critically ill patients, he brings an enthusiasm and passion to the idea of keeping patients out of the hospital in the first place by using lifestyle to prevent disease.
On his podcast, Solving Healthcare, Dr. Kyeremanteng features interviews and discussions on the topic of improving healthcare delivery. He is also the founder of the Resource Optimization Network, a multidisciplinary research group working to reduce health spending, make the ICU more efficient, and improve access to palliative care services.
Dr. Kyeremanteng was one of only two Black students in his medical school class, and as one of the few Black doctors practicing in his hospital today, he is keenly aware of the demographic imbalance in medicine and the resulting challenges Black individuals must overcome to have the same opportunities as their peers. He’s recently launched a healthcare mentorship program to help Black students bridge this gap.
Dr. Kyermanteng’s role in the ICU has put him at the forefront of caring for acutely ill COVID-19 patients, and his experience as a palliative doctor gives him a unique perspective on the challenges facing these patients and their families.
I was excited to hear from Dr. Kyeremanteng on all of these hot topics, and more. We covered a lot of ground in the conversation, from how intensive care medicine and palliative care medicine go hand-in-hand, to the lessons he’s learned from spending time with patients near the end of their lives, to what actions we can start taking now to be anti-racist.
*Photo courtesy of Michelle Dickie
In this episode we discuss:
- His background and how he came to practice medicine
- Why he chose to specialize in both intensive care and palliative medicine
- The overlay between palliative medicine and ICU care
- The difference between ICU care, palliative care, and hospice care
- Lessons Dr. Kyeremanteng has learned from spending time with patients at the end of their lives
- How he developed his passion for disease prevention
- Observations Dr. Kyeremantang has had caring for acute patients during COVID
- Patterns he’s noticed in patients who thrive after leaving the ICU
- Ways Dr. Kyeremanteng helps patients nurture a positive mindset
- His experiences with racism both as a child and in medicine
- Dr. Kyeremanteng’s youth mentorship program
- Lessons he hopes to instill in his three sons
- The advice he would give to people to live their life to their fullest
- Dr. Kyeremanteng’s advice to people concerned about COVID-19
- Actions he would love to see his white colleagues take to fight racism
- Three things Dr. Kyeremanteng does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he struggles to implement that could have a big impact on his health
- What a healthy life looks like to Dr. Kyeremanteng
You can follow Dr. Kyeremanteng on his website, Solving Healthcare, his podcast, and on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.
Links:
- Palliative care: Earlier is better
- Systemic Racism, How to Create Change and More with Dr. Chika Oriuwa
- Easy Strength with Dan John
- The 4-Hour Work Week, Tim Ferriss
- The 80/20 Principle, Richard Koch
Related episodes:
Ep 147 – Cancer, Racism, and Speaking Up with Deb Cordner Carson
Ep 149 – The Science of Spontaneous Healing with Dr. Jeffrey Rediger
Ep 164 – Boosting Immunity and Reducing COVID Risk with Dr. Aseem Malhotra
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on November 3, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
“I think that’s part of why I love competing, is being side-by-side with people, having the spectators cheer you on and scream you on, and just being in the environment- it’s just so much energy. You push yourself and you don’t think as much about the pain as when you’re doing a workout by yourself. But I’m thankful that there was… because CrossFit ended up sending judges, it was nice that we had a judge, and the gym that we were at had some of their members come and spectate, and my coach- it was really cool also having my coach right there next to me, which is different than any other sort of competition. So, it kind of felt like a competition but also didn’t. Like I said, just because of those factors, but I did my best to keep it the same as a competition setting because, I bet similar to you being an athlete and growing up in gymnastics, just that competition mentality- nothing is like it, and you just bring yourself a little bit higher up than in training.” - Kari Pearce
In just 6 years, Kari Pearce has built one of the most impressive resumes in the sport of CrossFit. A 6-time CrossFit Games competitor, she has been a consistent performer, never finishing outside the top 10 since her rookie season in 2015. She has also earned the title of fittest American female three times and has represented Team USA at the CrossFit Invitational in 2016 in Canada and in 2017 in Australia.
Kari is among the top 5 Fittest Women on Earth who are about to take on Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games.
Kari has a background in gymnastics and competed for the University of Michigan where where her team won 4 Big Ten Championships. There she also earned her degree in Movement Science from the School of Kinesiology and was three time Academic All Big Ten.
In addition to being a full time athlete, Kari has used her experience with gymnastics, CrossFit, and coaching to develop PowerAbs, which is a core program done by thousands of people around the world.
In this episode we caught up just a couple weeks before Stage 2 of the 2020 CrossFit Games to talk about some of our shared experiences growing up doing gymnastics in Michigan, her collegiate gymnastics career, how she found CrossFit, some defining moments in her Games career thus far, and how she has approached all the twists and turns of this unprecedented season.
In this episode we discuss:
- Kari’s background doing gymnastics in Michigan
- Why she decided to pursue collegiate gymnastics instead of Olympic gymnastics
- Her insights into how the culture of gymnastics can improve to protect young athletes
- Lessons in nutrition and recovery that, in hindsight, Kari thinks would have benefitted her as a young gymnast
- How Kari got into CrossFit
- High points and struggles within her career so far
- Kari’s approach to dealing with injuries and finding the right mindset to allow them to heal
- Her experience and approach to the 2020 training season
- Making the move to Las Vegas
- Her reflections on Stage 1 of the 2020 CrossFit Games
- Her approach to training as she prepares for Stage 2
- Why Kari feels her coaches and training environment are important to her success as an athlete
- Her daily routine
- The Power Abs program
- Three things Kari does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she thinks could have a big impact on her health, but she has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Kari
You can follow Kari on her website, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.
Links:
Related episodes:
Ep 36a & 36b - Dominique Moceanu on Gymnastics, Healing and Health
Ep 130 - Kristi O'Connell on Training for Joy and Balance
Ep 145 - 2019 Third Fittest Woman Jamie (Greene) Simmonds
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 17, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
Thriving on the Unexpected: Cory Schmidgall PH165
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
“I have learned how to adapt to the unknown and unknowable. I have learned to focus on what I CAN do. This led me to my main mantra to date which is, “What’s the next step?” which is what I focus on in any type of adversity or workout.” - Cory Schmidgall
Cory Schmidgall tried just about every fitness program out there. Nothing seemed to light the fire he remembered from his football days, or satisfied the competitive drive that motivated him to try out for the NFL.
It was while he was recovering from a major surgery, an anterior cervical discectomy and fusion of his spine, that he read about CrossFit. “I tried a few of the WODs at my local rec center. While everyone was looking at me as if I were crazy, I tried Elizabeth. 21 minutes later I was hooked.”



A few years passed, and Cory found that he was struggling with hip mobility and recovery due to inflammation, despite putting extra work in to improve in those areas. A consult with his orthopedist confirmed that he had a genetic degenerative hip disease. At only 37, he suddenly felt twice his age, and began to spiral into a blackhole of self-pity. But his CrossFit community wouldn’t let him. “One day, when I was kicking rocks at our box, one of the other members simply said, ‘Dude, why don’t you just focus on what you CAN do.’ Simple but effective.” From that day forward, Cory took on a new mindset. He began to look at CrossFit as prehab to train for surgery.
In the span of 10 weeks, Cory had surgery on both hips. The pain was brutal. But he remembered his friend’s words of encouragement. “I started slow and again focused on what I could do daily. I started over with all movements focusing on form and rehab. I used CrossFit methodology for rehab, on top of the hip movement rehab, and the CrossFit nutrition protocol to stay on top of inflammation and heal my gut from years of pain meds. I felt I was getting in the best shape of my life prior to surgery but even more so in the months that followed.”


Life wasn’t done dealing to surprises to Cory. A year and a half after his hip surgeries, he was diagnosed with skin cancer, and went back under the knife to have it removed, adding a new scar to his thigh. Just a year later, this was followed by a second cervical discectomy and fusion, adding another level to his previous procedure.
Just as he had before, Cory prepared for these new challenges by keeping his eyes on the horizon, using CrossFit, and by getting his nutrition on point.


Says Cory, “5 years in now, I have learned how to adapt to the unknown and unknowable. I have learned to focus on what I CAN do. This led me to my main mantra to date which is, “What’s the next step?” which is what I focus on in any type of adversity or workout.”
When I first read Cory's story, I was impressed not only by the remarkable mindset he's used to approach so many challenging surgeries, but also by how he's worked hard to develop skills to manage his own panic attacks and anxiety. I was excited to catch up with him to learn more about how identifying his why has been so critical to growing through these obstacles, and how he's using his experiences to help others.
In this episode we discuss:
- How sports and injuries played a role in Cory’s life growing up
- Pursuing his goal of playing in the NFL
- Struggling to find his identity as he retired from sports
- The relief of finding an explanation for neurological symptoms he had been experiencing
- Cory’s first CrossFit workout
- The turning point for Cory’s mindset in approaching his injuries
- How Cory is using his experiences to help others
- What’s allowed him to grow through these obstacles
- Strategies that have been helpful for Cory to manage his anxiety
- Cory’s morning routine
- Three things Cory does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he knows would have a positive impact on his health, but he struggles to implement
- What a healthy life looks like to Cory
You can follow Cory on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, or you can listen to his podcast, Anxiety WOD.
Links:
- Dr. Angie Cross, D.C.
- Welcome to the Jungle, Jim Rome
- Live Your Dreams, Les Brown
- As Many Reps as Possible, Jason Khalipa
- Box breathing
- Wim Hof breathing
- Motiversity
- Why We Sleep, Matthew Walker
Related episodes:
Ep 102 - Jason Khalipa and the AMRAP Mentality
Ep 108 - Training Smarter, Not Harder: Prevention and Recovery from Injury with Pure Physio
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 10, 2020.

Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Boosting Immunity and Reducing COVID Risk with Dr. Aseem Malhotra PH164
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
“I think a lot of doctors kind of know this but don’t really… it’s never really been at the forefront of their minds until now. We know, for example, that people who have high blood glucose or type 2 diabetes have worse outcomes from any infection - specifically respiratory infections. So, when I started looking at the literature and also looking at how immune health links to excess body fat, obesity, and type 2 diabetes pre-COVID, the data was very clear that this was a big risk factor for a dysregulated immune system, an immune system that isn’t going to function properly. So, it wasn’t just about the associations that we were drawing from COVID-19 and worse outcomes.”
- Aseem Malhotra
Dr. Aseem Malhotra is a cardiologist with the U.K.’s National Health Service and a world renowned expert in the prevention, diagnosis and management of heart disease.
He is a visiting Professor of Evidence Based Medicine at the Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health in Salvador, Brazil, an honorary council member to the Metabolic Psychiatry Clinic at Stanford University School of Medicine California, and is Cardiology MSc examiner at the University of Hertfordshire, U.K.
Dr. Malhotra is a longtime health activist and a founding member and lead campaigner of Action on Sugar, an initiative which highlights the the harm caused by excess sugar consumption.
Most recently, he has been a vocal advocate for improving metabolic health to reduce vulnerability to disease, including COVID-19, and has authored the book The 21-Day Immunity Plan: How to Rapidly Improve Your Metabolic Health and Resilience to Fight Infection.
Dr. Aseem and I recently sat down to chat about the link between metabolic health and immune function, ways we can improve our own immunity, and why turning the tide in the fight against poor metabolic health will take more than just personal responsibility.
*Dr. Malhotra’s bio was adapted from his website.
In this episode we discuss:
- Dr. Malhotra’s background in cardiology and how he became involved in health activism
- Why personal responsibility is only a very small factor in the epidemic of chronic disease
- How obesity and metabolic health have affected the COVID pandemic
- The markers of metabolic health
- The link between immunity and metabolic health
- Lifestyle factors that optimize the response to vaccines
- A broad overview of things we can do to improve our immunity
- 10 key points for policy makers to address metabolic syndrome on a grand scale
- Three things Dr. Malhotra does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he struggles to implement that could have a big impact on his health
- What a healthy life looks like to Dr. Malhotra
You can follow Dr. Malhotra on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.
Links:
- Interview With Dr. Robert Lustig and Dr. Aseem Malhotra
- Aseem Malhotra: Lessons in Public Health Advocacy
- Works by Gary Taubes
- Lifestyle Tips to Hedge Against Respiratory Illness, Sunday Express
- Covid 19 and the elephant in the room, European Scientist
- The 21-day plan to support your immune system and help fight off infections, The Telegraph
- Does Obesity Increase COVID-19 Risk, Good Morning Britain
Related episodes:
Ep 144 - Pursuing Health Pearls: What COVID-19 is Teaching Us About Our Health
Ep 146 - Pursuing Health Pearls: Understanding and Assessing Metabolic Health
Ep 135 - Immune System Strength with Dr. Leonard Calabrese
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on October 2, 2020.

Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Simple, Sustainable Nutrition with EC Synkowski PH162
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
“There's no diet plan, there's no 30 day challenge that's going to stick with you forever. You, ultimately at some point, are in the driver's seat.”
- EC Synkowski
EC Synkowski is the founder of OptimizeMe Nutrition, a company dedicated to helping anyone improve their health and well being with simple, non-restrictive diet methods.
EC started CrossFit in 2006 and over time her enthusiasm and hard work led to seminar staff and flowmaster positions for the Level 1 and CrossFit Weightlifting courses, a CF-L4 certification, and a career as a Program Manager with CrossFit, Inc. In 2017, EC stepped down from her position at CrossFit to focus on finishing her second master’s degree in Human Nutrition and Functional Medicine.
From there, she founded OptimizeMe Nutrition, where she focuses on helping individuals understand nutrition physiology and it’s day-to-day application.
She is the creator of the #800gChallenge, a straightforward eating plan that encourages participants to maximize their fruit and vegetable intake and encourages the consumption of whole, unprocessed foods, and it’s slightly more advanced partner, Lazy Macros.
I was excited to catch up with EC for her second appearance on the podcast. We talked about the 10 Principles of Nutrition, the importance of making sustainable changes to our diet, and the nutrition takeaways she’s gleaned from the COVID-19 pandemic.
This conversation left me feeling inspired, and Dani and I have decided to run a four week challenge using EC's Lazy Macros approach starting on September 28, 2020 for all of our Pursuing Health subscribers!
Our focus will be on eating 800 grams of fruits and vegetables and meeting protein goals each day, with a leaderboard to track people who demonstrate the most consistency with the 800g, protein, workouts, and sleep.
This challenge will be open to all subscribers at no additional fee. We're hosting a live Q+A for our subscribers on the evening of September 24th to answer all your questions and then we'll get started together on the 28th, so if you're not a Pursuing Health subscriber yet, today would be a great time to join!
In this episode we discuss:
- EC’s 10 Principles of Nutrition
- Her thoughts on fasting
- Why the #800gChallenge has such a positive ripple effect on our nutrition
- Her thoughts on the carnivore diet
- The Lazy Macro approach
- The impacts of under and overeating protein
- Why she started The Consistency Project, and why she keeps tracking so simple
- EC’s new podcast, The Consistency Project
- The nutrition takeaways that have been reinforced by the COVID pandemic
You can follow EC on Instagram and Facebook, or on The Consistency Project podcast.
Links:
Related episodes:
Ep 95 - Optimizing Your Nutrition with EC Synkowski
Ep 112 - Eating for Longevity with Dr. Valter Longo
Ep 150 - Pursuing Health Pearls: Our Approach to Nutrition
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on September 19, 2020.

Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
An Unlikely Antidote to Anorexia with Becky Fox PH161
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
“My journey to finding myself and my will to live began with finding CrossFit.”
- Becky Fox
The stress of everything was just too much. If she could just lose weight, Becky believed, she would be okay. She drastically cut her calories, restricted food intake and began exercising incessantly. A sophomore in high school, she succeeded only in losing athletic opportunities, a sudden drop in academic performance, and seclusion in her social life.
As her eating disorder consumed her, Becky would constantly think about how many calories she had eaten and how many hours she would need to spend in the gym to work them off. Friends and family became alarmed by her obsession with food and her sudden outbursts, and Becky sought help from a therapist, but it wasn’t enough.
Becky’s health continued to decline, and her bloodwork showed it. Her heart was not able to keep up with her physical state. Doctors stripped exercise from her, forbidding even recreational walks. Soon, depression, suicidal thoughts and self-harm replaced the physical activity Becky had once loved.
Becky’s sister had been by her side throughout her ordeal, and she knew just how important athletics were to Becky. Her sister had heard there was a CrossFit affiliate in their hometown, and hoped it might be a place Becky could go to work out safely and rebuild her self-esteem. “It sounded crazy at the time, putting an anorexic girl who had an addiction to exercise into a gym setting again. Little did I know that a box is very different than the typical gym.”
Becky came to an agreement with her family that if she met her calorie intake goal for the day, she would be permitted to attend a class. “I was hesitant. It was higher calories than I had in about a year, but I wanted fitness back in my life.”
Her first class was terrifying. Becky had developed extreme social anxiety and felt uncomfortable anytime she was away from home. But soon, she found she had a new home. “I could be myself and not worry about what anyone thought. The coaches were patient, everyone was kind, and no one treated me differently even though they could see every vein in my body. It gave me a reason to be OK eating again, fueling my body so I could work out later.”
As time passed, Becky developed close friendships with other members at her box, conquered her fear of food, and returned to a healthy weight. But her battle with eating disorders wasn’t over yet.
“I was always told in recovery that another eating disorder could hit me at any time and it would be something I would have to fight my whole life. Being as stubborn and strong-willed as I am, I never thought that would be me.”
2 years after she started CrossFit, Becky found the pendulum swinging the other way, this time towards binge eating. During the worst of her anorexia, Becky would have a small snack in the middle of the night to help calm her hunger pains and allow sleep. Although her body had returned to a healthy weight, her brain still turned to this old habit as a stress and anxiety reliever.
Becky’s midnight snacks grew to out-of-control binges, sometimes exceeding 2,000 calories a night. She feared her weight gain would be noticeable so she started restricting during the day, which only fed the cycle. Her depression returned with a vengeance, she lacked the motivation to work out, and found it embarrassing to be around her friends from her box.
Once again, Becky’s sister was at her side to help. They moved in together so that her sister could help her control the nighttime binges, even locking food up when it became necessary to break the habit. It was a long road back to a healthy weight as Becky sought to move at a slow pace that would be sustainable for the long term and not mirror her old anorexic ways. Once again, her commitment to fitness and her community helped her overcome her demons.

These days, Becky remains very active with her box, and even married one of the owners! She recently graduated and is helping others as a school counselor. She is a firm advocate for the physical, mental, and social benefits of CrossFit.
“I have had to learn so much about balance through this process and just how important it is in our lives. I have also learned a lot about how important finding self-worth is and not tying it to my body. My body, my weight, my looks do not determine how good of a friend I am or how academically smart I am or how good of an athlete I am. My body is not just to be seen but to be used. CrossFit gave me new goals, and PR's helped me to see my progress and make the journey to recovery worth it. I was getting better, getting stronger, and finding myself, my confidence, and my worth. I cannot thank CrossFit enough because it literally saved my life.”
I first heard Becky's story some time ago, and I think it will resonate with so many women (and men!) who find a new respect and admiration for their bodies when they focus on what it can do, rather than what it looks like. I was excited to have a chance to catch up with her to learn more about how CrossFit helped her overcome her eating disorders, how we can support others who are struggling, and how she's using her experiences to help others in her new role as a counselor.
In this episode we discuss:
- The factors that played into Becky developing an eating disorder
- How she realized her relationship with food was unhealthy
- Becky’s advice on the best ways to approach a family or friend with an eating disorder
- How she was able to safely reintroduce exercise into her routine
- The importance of trying multiple nutritionists and counselors to find the right fit for you
- How Becky’s calorie restriction turned into binge eating at night
- Why community support was so important for helping Becky to heal from her eating disorder
- Using intuitive eating to establish a healthy relationship with food
- Using self care to overcome the self-hatred she experienced with her disorder
- What Becky’s life looks like today
- How her own experiences help her as a school counselor and a CrossFit coach
- Characteristics of CrossFit that led Becky to feel like CrossFit saved her life
- How Becky found the right balance for working out at an appropriate volume
- Three things Becky does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on her health
- One thing she knows would have a positive impact on her health, but she struggles to implement
- What a healthy life looks like to Becky
You can follow Becky on Instagram, and you can follow her affiliate, SouthWind CrossFit on Instagram and Facebook.
Related episodes:
Ep 85 - Back on Track with Carleen Mathews
Ep 71 - The Sugar Free Revolution with Karen Thomson
Ep 30 - Nadia Johnston on How CrossFit Helped Her to Overcome Eating Disorders and Depression
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on September 14, 2020.

Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Chandler Smith: Brotherhood, Heart, Attitude, Warrior PH160
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
“I think if I just limited myself to being an athlete I’d be doing a disservice to the other demographics that I represent. I’m a wrestler. I’m a former West Pointer. I’m an Army officer. All these different intersectionalities that are composed within me, and everyone has their own group of intersectionalities that they represent. That’s how you - if you want to create understanding about something that you do that’s outside of the gym - the CrossFit box is a great space for it, because again, of what you said. It’s not a responsibility, but it’s an opportunity that I think should be recognized and capitalized upon.”
- Chandler Smith
In 2012, Chandler Smith set a goal to qualify for the CrossFit Games by 2022. In 2019, he smashed that goal when he placed 15th at his rookie CrossFit Games appearance, and now he's set his sights on climbing up the leaderboard.
The path to becoming an elite CrossFit athlete hasn't always been straight-forward. As a child, Chandler had aspirations of following in his father's footsteps and playing for the NFL. But as a smaller athlete, in high school he decided to focus on wrestling, a sport better suited for his stature.
A lifelong interest in the Army led Chandler to attend West Point, where he would continue to compete as a wrestler and received the Warrior Athlete of Excellence Award in recognition of his mental toughness, coachability, perseverance, and athletic skill.
Following graduation, Chandler was commissioned as an officer and began work as a tank platoon leader. He had previously used CrossFit to help him train for wrestling, but now it became the primary focus for his athletic drive. In 2016, he made a splash onto the competitive scene when he qualified for the Atlantic Regional after finishing 7th in his region during his first complete CrossFit Open.
In 2017, an injury resulting in the loss of part of his ring finger cut his Open season short, and in 2018, a deployment to Bulgaria meant work took priority over training. When he returned to the States, Chandler resumed training with a single-minded focus, and a stellar performance at the 2019 Rogue Invitational earned him a ticket to the Games.
Today Chandler is a Captain in the United States Army as well as the officer in charge of the U.S. Army Warrior Fitness Team. In the lead up to the 2020 CrossFit Games, he's been training with athletes from all over the east coast in an effort to get out of his comfort zone and be as prepared as possible for whatever challenges lay in store.
When Chandler and I recently caught up, I was excited to hear what his 2020 training season has looked like, how his experiences in the Army have helped him grow as a competitor, and to hear his ideas on how CrossFit can improve it's diversity, equity, and inclusion.
In this episode we discuss:
- What Chandler’s training has looked like leading into the 2020 CrossFit Games
- His background and childhood, and how his parents and the Army have influenced him
- Factors that influenced Chandler to attend West Point
- How Chandler got into CrossFit
- The power of writing down your goals
- How Chandler’s success at the 2016 Regionals changed his approach to training
- His experience at the 2019 CrossFit Games
- Chandler’s role with the U.S. Army Warrior Fitness Team
- How COVID has impacted his 2020
- Chandler’s decision to sit out the 2020 CrossFit Games following Greg Glassman’s comments
- His experience at the CrossFit Community Summit and first interactions with Eric Roza
- Diversity, Equity and Inclusion within CrossFit
- Chandler's experience with being in the racial minority of CrossFit athletes
- The importance of being a good role model
- His former political aspirations
- #BHAW: Brotherhood, Heart, Attitude, Warrior
- Three things Chandler does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he thinks could have a big impact on his health, but he has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Chandler
You can follow Chandler on Instagram and Facebook.
Links:
- Training Think Tank
- Chandler Smith Loses Tip of Ring Finger Over Weekend
- FanBoy Among Top Dogs
- CrossFit Games Regionals 2012 - Spencer Hendel Snatch Ladder
Related episodes:
Ep 157 - Work Hard, Be Kind with Cole Sager
Ep 147 - Cancer, Racism, and Speaking Up with Deb Cordner Carson
Ep 130 - Kristi Eramo O'Connell on Training for Joy and Balance
Ep 52b - Tia-Clair Toomey on Realizing Her CrossFit and Olympic Dreams and Finding Confidence
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on September 7, 2020.

Tuesday Aug 25, 2020
Eric Roza: CrossFit’s new CEO on Health, Happiness, and Performance PH158
Tuesday Aug 25, 2020
Tuesday Aug 25, 2020
“So, you have this term sheet, and the term sheet is non-binding, either party can walk away. The most important part of it is that you’re agreed on some basics for the transaction, and there’s what’s called a no-shop or exclusivity period. Usually lawyers write that, and that says that the seller can’t talk to anybody else. You can do a lot of work, spend a lot of time, spend a lot of money figuring out how this is going to happen. So, instead of talking to any lawyers, I just said I’m going to write this myself right from the heart. So, I wrote - I basically said, “Greg, please don’t shop this deal or try to negotiate it in anyway. I’m not commodity money. I’m a passionate [person] who wants to spend the rest of his life building on your legacy.” And, it was my first version of this notion of being the world’s leading platform for health, happiness, and performance.”
- Eric Roza
When CrossFit, Inc. announced that Eric Roza would be taking over as the new owner and CEO, the news was met with excitement and enthusiasm from the CrossFit community. As a longtime CrossFit athlete and affiliate owner, he has experienced first-hand the power of CrossFit to forge bonds and bring people together, as well as the challenges facing affiliate owners.
Eric brings much more than just a passion for CrossFit to the table. He has a wealth of experience as an entrepreneur, business owner, executive, and consultant.
Eric studied Economics at the University of Michigan, and completed his Masters of Business Administration at Stanford University Graduate School of Business. In 2007 he founded Datalogix and served as CEO until the company was acquired by Oracle in 2015. From there he led Oracle's Data Cloud. Most recently he's served as an executive in residence for a venture capital firm and taught entrepreneur leadership as an adjunct professor at the University of Colorado Boulder.
Eric is also an active board member for several organizations and supports charitable efforts focused on mental healthcare, education, and entrepreneurship. In his downtime, he enjoys working out with friends, skiing, mountain biking, running, singing, and playing guitar with his band, The House Cats.
I first met Eric about a month ago, and we immediately connected over his vision to make CrossFit “The world’s leading platform for health, happiness, and performance." I was excited to catch up with him to learn more about the behind-the-scenes process for taking over as CrossFit CEO, the key elements that have played a role in the transition, and his vision for the future of CrossFit.
In this episode we discuss:
- Eric’s fitness background and how he found CrossFit
- How CrossFit has impacted his mental health
- Eric's dream of owning CrossFit, and how that dream materialized
- How he assessed what needed to be done to transition CrossFit to new leadership
- The importance of identifying and communicating with stakeholders
- The inception and evolution of the CrossFit Community Summit
- The biggest priorities for CrossFit at the moment
- CrossFit's new mission to become, "The world's leading platform for health, happiness and performance."
- Why CrossFit for health and CrossFit for performance are not separate entities
- The notion of thinking “in the box” vs “out of the box:” expanding the idea of what a CrossFit box is, and bringing CrossFit to different audiences
- Who will be driving the decision-making process of CrossFit moving forward
- Three things Eric does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he thinks could have a big impact on his health, but he has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Eric
You can follow Eric on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.
Links:
- Live Zoom with Eric Roza and Dave Castro
- CrossFit Community Town Hall
- CrossFit Sanitas
- Born to Run
- MBS CrossFit
- The Alchemist
- Athena Perez: Famished, Force-Fed, 450 Pounds
Related episodes:
Ep 58 - Nicole Carroll On the Early Days and Preserving the Culture of CrossFit
Ep 118 - The State of CrossFit with Coach Greg Glassman
Ep 131 - Dave Castro on Changes in Life and the CrossFit Games
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on August 24, 2020.

Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
Be Kind, Work Hard with Cole Sager PH157
Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
Tuesday Aug 18, 2020
“When you think of the CrossFit community, you think of people who are going to the gym to challenge themselves, to be better than they were the day before, and that is such a cool part of the community, and it’s what I fell in love with.”
- Cole Sager
6-time CrossFit Games athlete Cole Sager wants to be known as the kindest person you'll ever meet, and in doing so, he hopes to motivate others to be the kindest, hardest-working version of themselves.
Growing up in a small town in Washington, Cole played sports throughout his youth and aspired to be an NFL player. In 2009 he joined the Washington University Huskies as an invited walk-on, and was one of only a handful of true freshmen to play. At the end of his freshman year, he was awarded the Scout Special Teams Player of The Year award, an honor that would change the trajectory of his life. The honor was awarded based on hard work, and receiving it ignited Cole's drive to always be the hardest worker on the field.
As Cole neared graduation, his goals shifted from playing professional football to becoming a professional CrossFit athlete. Within months of his first CrossFit workout he qualified for Regionals, and just one year after that he established himself a serious contender when he placed first at the 2014 North West Regional and 17th in his rookie appearance at the CrossFit Games.
Eventually, Cole took a leap of faith, resigned from his job as a loan originator, and began training full-time in his home garage gym. With the support of his wife, Genasee, and his coach, Ben Bergeron, he has built a reputation as one of CrossFit's most consistent athletes. Career highlights so far include placing 5th at the 2016 CrossFit Games, 2nd at the 2019 Fittest in Cape Town sanctional, and 3rd at the 2019 Rogue Invitational, but according to Cole, one of his biggest achievements was winning the Spirit of the Games award in 2017, an honor that recognized all the hard work he puts into developing his character.
I was excited to catch up with Cole to learn more about what drives the intensity behind his training, the qualities he values in himself and others, and why he believes developing character leads to athletic excellence.
In this episode we discuss:
- How Cole is approaching the 2020 CrossFit Games
- How he stays focused on his goals in the face of doubt
- Cole’s collegiate football career
- Letting go of NFL aspirations and falling in love with CrossFit
- Cole’s experience of getting to his first CrossFit Games
- How he started working with Ben Bergeron as a coach
- The qualities of a good coach
- How Cole has developed as a person over the course of his CrossFit career
- How he stays driven to train even on days he doesn’t feel like it
- The importance of accepting help from others to hold yourself accountable
- How Cole’s wife, Genasee, is a vital part of his team
- A typical day for Cole and Genasee
- Three things Cole does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he thinks could have a big impact on his health, but he has a hard time implementing
- What a healthy life looks like to Cole
You can follow Cole on his website and on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.
Links:
- Cole Sager: CrossFit Games 2018
- Cole Sager: Nutrition, Mindset, and Fitness
- Ashleigh Moe's Struggle
- Rory Zambard: Transmission of Culture
- CompTrain
- Start With Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action, Simon Sinek
- Working Against Gravity
- Eric Thomas
Related episodes:
Ep 54 - Neal Maddox: From Football to Forty
Ep 56 – Katrín Davíðsdóttir and Ben Bergeron on the Process of Creating a Champion
Ep 76 - Working Against Gravity with Adee Cazayoux
Ep 84 - Chasing Excellence with Ben Bergeron
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on August 17, 2020.

Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
Adapting to Muscular Dystrophy with Dano Lotz PH156
Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
Tuesday Aug 11, 2020
“When I was 12, I played my last season of parks and rec basketball in braces, and after that, everyone was basically like, 'Hey, no sports. Try to limit activity, we don't need you to get hurt because you could seriously injure yourself.' So, it basically turned into video games and reading. I think it was in the best interest to keep me safe, but in my mind I was like, 'So, I don't get to play with my friends unless I'm inside?'”
- Dano Lotz
Imagine being an active kid who loves playing baseball, basketball, soccer- basically anything outdoors. You notice you’re a little slower than your classmates, but you chalk it up to minor differences, and go on playing sports for the love of the game. Then, at age 12, you’re put in leg braces and told you need to stop being active in order to prevent injury. Suddenly your world shrinks to afternoons on the couch, reading and playing video games.
This was the case for Daniel ‘Dano’ Lotz, who was born with a genetic condition called Charcot-Marie-Tooth (CMT) disease. CMT is a form of muscular dystrophy that affects sensory and motor nerves in the extremities, causing nerve degeneration and resulting in muscle weakness. In Dano’s case, his CMT affects his lower legs, including his calves and ankles.
Dano wasn’t about to let his condition hold him back. At 16 he started weight training with the football team at his high school, and he found a new passion. Working out helped him regain muscle mass and motor control, and it gave him the satisfaction of being part of a team. It also ignited a fire to one day become a trainer himself.
As Dano continued to improve and build strength, his mentality changed. Rather than letting his limitations hold him back, he became more and more active- but ended up breaking several pairs of braces, an expensive habit. He decided to stop wearing the braces and continued with his active lifestyle. After several years of working out at traditional gyms and practicing to become a personal trainer, some friends invited him to join them for his first CrossFit workout- Fight Gone Bad.
Dano finished the workout, collapsed to the floor, and fell in love. He would go on to get his Level 1, and then his Level 2 Certificate, and has had the opportunity to compete as an adaptive athlete and to coach at multiple affiliates across the United States. Dano’s tenacity and determination give him a unique perspective as a trainer. As he himself learned what movements he could do, and how to modify the movements he struggled with, he laid the groundwork to be able to empathize with others.
Now, as a full-time trainer, Dano says, “The best thing is that I now get to teach and train others to become the best versions of themselves.”
I first heard Dano’s story several years ago- not too long after he started CrossFit. I was excited to catch up with him and hear how his story has grown and evolved, and how he's using his passion for fitness to inspire others.
In this episode we discuss:
- CMT muscular dystrophy: what it is and what it has looked like in Dano's life
- How Dano’s childhood and activity was impacted by his condition
- Reflecting on how becoming active as a teenager improved his mood and motor function
- How Dano became interested in personal training and exercise science
- How Dano got into CrossFit
- The changes he noticed in his health and physical abilities once he started CrossFit
- How he decided to become a CrossFit coach and what that journey has looked like
- How his experiences as an adaptive athlete help him as a coach
- Making the most of his downtime from coaching during the COVID pandemic
- Three things Dano does on a regular basis that have the biggest positive impact on his health
- One thing he knows would have a positive impact on his health, but he struggles to implement
- What a healthy life looks like to Dano
You can follow Dano on Instagram and Twitter, and you can follow the Adapting to Life podcast on Instagram and YouTube.
Links:
Related episodes:
Ep 124 - Breaking Barriers with an Adaptive Athlete and Coach Kevin Ogar
If you like this episode, please subscribe to Pursuing Health on iTunes and give it a rating. I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments below and on social media using the hashtag #PursuingHealth. I look forward to bringing you future episodes with inspiring individuals and ideas about health every other Tuesday.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for general information only, and does not provide medical advice. We recommend that you seek assistance from your personal physician for any health conditions or concerns.
This post was originally published on August 10, 2020.
